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Canuck311
01-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Alex's play has gotten worse throughout the year ( dont lie to yourselves)!! he must improve , in order to prevent himself from slipping out of top 10 status.


How much do you guys think he will slip? What number in the first round do you think he will finally get picked?!?!?

AlphaDog
01-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Care to elaborate? (how has he become worse) I'm not disagreeing (or agreeing, either way) but please back up your comments so people don't take it the wrong way.

What didn't you like about his play at the CHL game? (etc.)

WellandDogsFan
01-24-2008, 02:08 PM
Worse? I disagree. I think Petro has played better hockey of late. To answer your question, he is a solid top 10 pick. His potential (upside) is way to big to ignore. Depending on the order of the draft, he will probably be gone very early (before the 5th pick).

Canuck311
01-24-2008, 02:10 PM
Care to elaborate? (how has he become worse) I'm not disagreeing (or agreeing, either way) but please back up your comments so people don't take it the wrong way.

What didn't you like about his play at the CHL game? (etc.)

I didnt see the propects game. But i do know from an NHL scout that he "wasn't a factor, nor interesting as expected"

WellandDogsFan
01-24-2008, 02:14 PM
This is an invalid poll as there will be many that think he is a top 5 pick.

He was a factor last night so I would say your nhl scout was full of bunk. His hit led to a turnover which lead to a goal for the red team. He didnt look nearly as lost out there as some others (like Doughty did). He was by far the best passing Dman out there last night. Did he make mistakes last night? Absolutely, but his mistakes were nowhere near as glaring as others.

AlphaDog
01-24-2008, 02:16 PM
I didnt see the propects game. But i do know from an NHL scout that he "wasn't a factor, nor interesting as expected"

I'm just saying, it would be nice if you backed up your statements with some thoughtful sentences. If you feel that he's not going to be a top 10 pick, post why - what has/hasn't he done specifically to lower his value.

Usually if someone says something like that, it's followed by a "because...." statement where they give their reasons. I'm just interested in hearing why you feel that way. If you don't post any specific reasons people are just going to think you're making unintelligent posts and you'll end up with negative rep :)

cope
01-24-2008, 02:29 PM
I pick Top 5, not in the poll options so I'm just stating it here.

I don't think anyone on the Red team looked awesome compared to the White team, so throw that game out. If Brian Burke wants to come to St. Cats to see him, he is doing something right.

Go Petro Go.

skatee
01-24-2008, 02:32 PM
maybe cliff fletcher will come to town to see him...
;)
seriosuly though.. remember there are non-north american skaters that will mix in with it... I think over the last while alex has impressed me with showing how mobile his and how well he can jump up with the play to balance his offensive skills with his defensive skills..

cope
01-24-2008, 02:36 PM
I think we need to understand the role the team asked Alex to play then versus now. Only recently has Alex being jumping in on the plays, in fact only recently has all the D been active in jumping in offense. In the past they sat back, probably to cover for Lover, maybe they feel more comfortable to take chances with Dahm, I don't know. But I don't think it is fair to say one NHL scout said he was not impressive so he is playing bad and will drop out of the top 10.

GoDogsGo
01-24-2008, 04:07 PM
cant take the word of one person...(scout)... time will tell on this one....

Standing Room Only
01-24-2008, 04:28 PM
I think Alex's play has improved as the season has gone on. He was injured early in the season and maybe came back to early?? With the European factor I believe he will be a solid top 10 but then again look at Esposito last year

Phil Margonis
01-24-2008, 11:02 PM
petro's sick. his 1st pass is excellent. his oputlet pass almost always gets the team out of the zone and he eats up a ton of minutes.
i'd rather have bogosian and doughty at this point tho but that says a lot about this years draft class. and schenn is a beast who i love

tml
01-24-2008, 11:04 PM
I don't care what anyone says Petro has to be in the top five. This guy is one smooth Dman. In fact he makes it look easy most nights. He never seems to panic and that usually can not be taught but has to be natural. Any team with a top 5 pick that doesn't pick Petro is missing a great opportunity. His upside is phenominal! Besides he is still young.

joecanadian
01-25-2008, 02:22 PM
Petro is about as smooth as they come. i just think he needs to start playing with a little more edge, but i think that will come with age and maturity(both physical and mental).

What'sUpDog
01-25-2008, 05:44 PM
In Petro, you have an exceptionally talented 18 year old, with one of the best hands on the OHL. 6 foot 4 210lbs, and hasn't finished filling out. The reason he doesn't stand out is because flashy isn't his style. Watch his shots on net, he is always shooting low for the forwards to tip, very few slap shots (if any) and his accuracy in passing it tremendous. As a Scout, I would be looking for how talented this hockey player can become and not just how great he is right now, and he does stand out.
I'm guessing top 5

Phil Margonis
01-25-2008, 06:15 PM
1) stamkos
2) doughty
3) bogosian
4) schenn
5) petro

thats my top 5 prospects

skatee
01-26-2008, 01:26 AM
i think schenn has upped his real estate... good juniors... good prospects game

DogMember77
01-29-2008, 09:57 AM
This is an invalid poll as there will be many that think he is a top 5 pick.

He was a factor last night so I would say your nhl scout was full of bunk. His hit led to a turnover which lead to a goal for the red team. He didnt look nearly as lost out there as some others (like Doughty did). He was by far the best passing Dman out there last night. Did he make mistakes last night? Absolutely, but his mistakes were nowhere near as glaring as others.

I really agree with that, & the Red team itself never had a chance, almost all the forwards were playing for themselves & it showed (on the scoreboard if you missed the game itself). What everyone has said about him in these posts is pretty much all true, especially the potential factor, thats one of the biggest assets he has.
I seriously dont think he has anything to worry about in the rankings, because really thats not whats important, its important to be picked, develop & grow as a solid D-man that he can clearly become at the NHL level...oh & also to not be picked by the Leafs, that to!:uhoh:

Phil Margonis
01-29-2008, 12:17 PM
i change my rankings now to

1) stamkos
2) bogosian
3) schenn
4) doughty
5) petro

what a great draft year. all of these kids i would love to
thats my top 5 prospects. i realy hope buffalo tank it and hit a home run with one of these kids

WellandDogsFan
01-29-2008, 12:33 PM
My current top 5

1)Stamkos
2)Schenn
3)Petro
4)Bogosian
5)Doughty

Really, 2-5 can be interchanged right now, although Petro could become a solid #2 if he continues to play the way he has the last few weeks.

Phil Margonis
01-29-2008, 12:42 PM
we each have 4 d-men in our top 5, great year for d men in the draft. lets not forget del zotto, cuma, n i forget who else but theirs more. my #6 player would be Hodgeson from Brampton i love him too

WellandDogsFan
01-29-2008, 12:44 PM
we each have 4 d-men in our top 5, great year for d men in the draft. lets not forget del zotto, cuma, n i forget who else but theirs more. my #6 player would be Hodgeson from Brampton i love him too
This is a solid year for Dmen. Could be a BIG year for the OHL, possibly 4 of the top 5 and 7 or 8 of the top 10.

Phil Margonis
01-29-2008, 01:02 PM
yeah that's huge for the O. isn't it great?

markl
01-29-2008, 08:59 PM
I think Im going to agree with Canuck311. I think at times he has been great. ..........Not including the game against Sarina where he played very well I feel he was giving the puck up more than anyone

fishfan51
02-01-2008, 09:13 PM
My current top 5

1)Stamkos
2)Schenn
3)Petro
4)Bogosian
5)Doughty

Really, 2-5 can be interchanged right now, although Petro could become a solid #2 if he continues to play the way he has the last few weeks.


Petro will not be drafted before Doughty. Don't get me wrong here...Petro is a smooth skater, and great passer with great vision. But...he gives the puck away way to often. He also has next to nothing when it comes to the physical department. We all know what he brings to the table offensivley, he needs to be more responsible in his own end and start using that big frame of his in the corners, along the boards and especially in front of the net.

Doughty had a GREAT world juniors and I mean GREAT. He played at a top level against the best in the world...while Petro wasn't even invited. If Petro gets drafted before Doughty...I'll eat a bug!

cope
02-01-2008, 09:27 PM
I don't see Canuck311's comment, I would say this about Petro, incredible kid, with even more potential, for a '90 to be ranked in the top 5 against an '89 (Doughty) is pretty impressive.

I think Petro has the best first pass out of the zone in the OHL out of all D man.

If you look at the stats, I think its clear Petro had a better rookie year and this year seems to be close depending on how you want to look at it, you could argue Petro for being more responsible with a better +/- compared to Doughty at a little higher points per game. But I think Petro's first pass is better.

Doughty (rookie year) GP 65 G 5 A 28 Pts 33 +/- - 11
(this year) GP 39 G 9 A 33 Pts 42 +/- - 8

Petro (rookie year) GP 59 G 7 A 45 Pts 52 +/- +40
(this year) GP 44 G 10 A 27 Pts 37 +/- +21

Petro is the key to our defense in the playoffs and next year, he a kid in age, but he is the man on our blue line.

WellandDogsFan
02-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Petro will not be drafted before Doughty. Don't get me wrong here...Petro is a smooth skater, and great passer with great vision. But...he gives the puck away way to often. He also has next to nothing when it comes to the physical department. We all know what he brings to the table offensivley, he needs to be more responsible in his own end and start using that big frame of his in the corners, along the boards and especially in front of the net.

Doughty had a GREAT world juniors and I mean GREAT. He played at a top level against the best in the world...while Petro wasn't even invited. If Petro gets drafted before Doughty...I'll eat a bug!
I think you will agree, that Petro is picking up the physical aspect of his game. It seems that since he has returned from Edmonton, he is hitting more often and harder.

no offense, but I would love to see you eat a bug after the draft:D

:cheers2:

cope
02-01-2008, 09:36 PM
no offense, but I would love to see you eat a but after the draft:D

:cheers2:


WDF, that is not nice, but I kinda agree with you, we could have our own Niagara Ice Dog Fan Fear Factor

fishfan51
02-01-2008, 10:19 PM
I think you will agree, that Petro is picking up the physical aspect of his game. It seems that since he has returned from Edmonton, he is hitting more often and harder.

no offense, but I would love to see you eat a but after the draft:D

:cheers2:

I said BUG! Not but. :eek:

WellandDogsFan
02-01-2008, 10:21 PM
I said BUG! Not but. :eek:
TYPO sorry man I didnt mean that. I reallymean bug. many apologies!! I will edit the post right now!!

But I would still like to see you eat a BUG lol

tml
02-02-2008, 10:03 AM
I said BUG! Not but. :eek:
eating a bug would certainly be easier and probably healthier!!!lol

WellandDogsFan
02-10-2008, 10:16 PM
With the way Petro has played of late, perhaps we need a new poll...."How high will Petro go in this years draft?"