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Old 12-23-2019, 12:16 PM
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https://ohlprospects.blogspot.com/

Akil Thomas - Niagara IceDogs
At this point, Thomas has to be considered the crown jewel of the OHL trade deadline. If there was one player that I had to put money on moving, it would be Thomas. Niagara is in rebuild mode and Thomas is a premier playmaker who will be playing in the AHL next year. They need to recoup some young assets and picks back from their runs in recent years. This is especially true in light of the horrible injury to Tucker Tynan, which really put a damper on the IceDogs' playoff hopes. So who will be in on Thomas? Basically everyone. There is not a competitive team in the OHL that could not use his services. The better question is, which OHL team has the young player that Niagara will demand in return? Would Peterborough move local boy and recent first rounder JR Avon? I don't think they would. Would London part with Stuart Rolofs? What about Sudbury with Landon McCallum? Truthfully, I think the best and most likely dance partner is Saginaw. They want to improve their powerplay and get another top flight center and Thomas would be a great linemate for a guy like Cole Perfetti. Additionally, they could part with someone like Connor Punnett because of how well their other 03's have played (such as Josh Bloom who should have been a first rounder IMO).
Prediction: Thomas goes to Saginaw in exchange for Connor Punnett, OSH 2 2020, SSM 3 2021, SAG 2 2022, KGN 2 2024.

Philip Tomasino - Niagara IceDogs
Given the circumstances, I would be shocked to see Tomasino finish his OHL career in Niagara. But as an '01 (who does not have much of a chance of playing in the NHL next year), the IceDogs can be patient here. They have no reason to rush a deal for him. There will be a market for him, no doubt about it. The center position is one that will be heavily coveted. But given that they can just deal Tomasino next year or this offseason, would Niagara be smart to move him now? Why not wait and give yourself more options. This offseason could open up more talented 03's as trade options from other teams, and with the OHL likely hosting the Memorial Cup next year, the trade market is likely to be more competitive.
Prediction: Tomasino stays in Niagara.

Ivan Lodnia - Niagara IceDogs
I've been impressed with how Lodnia has played this year after being returned by Minnesota into the season. Not always easy to take that demotion in stride. But Lodnia has been an impact player and leader for Niagara. I'm not sure I see many OA's moving and Lodnia is in that group.
Prediction: Lodnia stays in Niagara.

Oliver Castleman - Niagara IceDogs
See Lodnia. Niagara has a great group of OA players this year but the market is just so crowded with very few teams looking to swap. Castleman is a great goal scorer and a hard worker, but he's not likely an upgrade over what other OHL teams currently have in their OA spots.
Prediction: Castleman stays in Niagara

Elijah Roberts - Niagara IceDogs
Another OA, Roberts is a slick skating offensive defender who can really help a team's transition game. But he's not the type of defender that competitive teams often look at to help their playoff push. This is especially true considering an OHL team would need to swap out one of their OA's for him.
Prediction: Roberts stays in Niagara
I would be ok with that Thomas trade and i think/hope thatís where he goes as for the rest I agree except for maybe Lodnia
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:21 PM
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Brock Otten’s has Serron Noel going to London even though Hunter didn’t invite him to Team Canada’s selection camp - seems unlikely from both parties. London’s current OA situation is a major area of concern and Ivan Lodnia would be a massive upgrade.
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2020 OHL Trade Deadline

<> January 9th (for overage players)

<> January 10th (for all other players).
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Brock Ottenís has Serron Noel going to London even though Hunter didnít invite him to Team Canadaís selection camp - seems unlikely from both parties. Londonís current OA situation is a major area of concern and Ivan Lodnia would be a massive upgrade.
Hunter knows it's a buyers market for OA's. Very few teams in the market for them, more players than teams. I don't think the return for Lodnia will be as expected. Especially if he winds up in London. The Knights tend to underpay or at least that's how it seems on the surface, add in how Hunter tends to school JB in trades (Miletic, Lochead) I don't like how this is shaping up.
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Hunter knows it's a buyers market for OA's. Very few teams in the market for them, more players than teams. I don't think the return for Lodnia will be as expected. Especially if he winds up in London. The Knights tend to underpay or at least that's how it seems on the surface, add in how Hunter tends to school JB in trades (Miletic, Lochead) I don't like how this is shaping up.


If he gets schooled by Hunter again I’ll be extremely disappointed

I think the Dogs should have traded Lodnia shortly after he returned and started putting up numbers

Would have eliminated the chance of any injuries and it looks like now the market has settled


IMO Will be a colossal blunder by JB if he fails to capitalize on the gift that was given to them with the return of Lodnia.

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If he gets schooled by Hunter again I’ll be extremely disappointed

I think the Dogs should have traded Lodnia shortly after he returned and started putting up numbers

Would have eliminated the chance of any injuries and it looks like now the market has settled


IMO Will be a colossal blunder by JB if he fails to capitalize on the gift that was given to them with the return of Lodnia.

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So, do the Dogs send him to London for pennies on the dollar or keep him and get nothing for him? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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2020 OHL Trade Deadline Preview @BrockOtten
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Akil Thomas - Niagara IceDogs
At this point, Thomas has to be considered the crown jewel of the OHL trade deadline. If there was one player that I had to put money on moving, it would be Thomas. Niagara is in rebuild mode and Thomas is a premier playmaker who will be playing in the AHL next year. They need to recoup some young assets and picks back from their runs in recent years. This is especially true in light of the horrible injury to Tucker Tynan, which really put a damper on the IceDogs' playoff hopes. So who will be in on Thomas? Basically everyone. There is not a competitive team in the OHL that could not use his services. The better question is, which OHL team has the young player that Niagara will demand in return? Would Peterborough move local boy and recent first rounder JR Avon? I don't think they would. Would London part with Stuart Rolofs? What about Sudbury with Landon McCallum? Truthfully, I think the best and most likely dance partner is Saginaw. They want to improve their powerplay and get another top flight center and Thomas would be a great linemate for a guy like Cole Perfetti. Additionally, they could part with someone like Connor Punnett because of how well their other 03's have played (such as Josh Bloom who should have been a first rounder IMO).
Prediction: Thomas goes to Saginaw in exchange for Connor Punnett, OSH 2 2020, SSM 3 2021, SAG 2 2022, KGN 2 2024.

Philip Tomasino - Niagara IceDogs
Given the circumstances, I would be shocked to see Tomasino finish his OHL career in Niagara. But as an '01 (who does not have much of a chance of playing in the NHL next year), the IceDogs can be patient here. They have no reason to rush a deal for him. There will be a market for him, no doubt about it. The center position is one that will be heavily coveted. But given that they can just deal Tomasino next year or this offseason, would Niagara be smart to move him now? Why not wait and give yourself more options. This offseason could open up more talented 03's as trade options from other teams, and with the OHL likely hosting the Memorial Cup next year, the trade market is likely to be more competitive.
Prediction: Tomasino stays in Niagara.

Ivan Lodnia - Niagara IceDogs
I've been impressed with how Lodnia has played this year after being returned by Minnesota into the season. Not always easy to take that demotion in stride. But Lodnia has been an impact player and leader for Niagara. I'm not sure I see many OA's moving and Lodnia is in that group.
Prediction: Lodnia stays in Niagara.

Oliver Castleman - Niagara IceDogs
See Lodnia. Niagara has a great group of OA players this year but the market is just so crowded with very few teams looking to swap. Castleman is a great goal scorer and a hard worker, but he's not likely an upgrade over what other OHL teams currently have in their OA spots.
Prediction: Castleman stays in Niagara

Elijah Roberts - Niagara IceDogs
Another OA, Roberts is a slick skating offensive defender who can really help a team's transition game. But he's not the type of defender that competitive teams often look at to help their playoff push. This is especially true considering an OHL team would need to swap out one of their OA's for him.
Prediction: Roberts stays in Niagara
The Icedogs need to trade more than just Thomas. They are low on picks but even more concerning is their lack of talent on forward. They need to bring in one or two young top end forwards. I really think that if Thomas is the only player traded, this team is in trouble for the next several years.
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The Icedogs need to trade more than just Thomas. They are low on picks but even more concerning is their lack of talent on forward. They need to bring in one or two young top end forwards. I really think that if Thomas is the only player traded, this team is in trouble for the next several years.
They arenít getting the picks they are missing for anyone other than Thomas this deadline (that includes Lodnia IMO) as for the talent at forward or lack of it thatís what the high pick in next summers draft is for and probably what you get when Tomasino goes next year.
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Keeping Lodnia and even Castleman would serve no purpose IMO. They need to think about the future. I would think about moving Tomasino as well. If they can wind up with 3, 03 born first rounders why not trade him? That would set them up nicely for '23.
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Keeping Lodnia and even Castleman would serve no purpose IMO. They need to think about the future. I would think about moving Tomasino as well. If they can wind up with 3, 03 born first rounders why not trade him? That would set them up nicely for '23.
Anyone trading for an OA is likely going for it. A team that is going for it, doesn't want Castleman.
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