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PART VI (Post #5) UPDATED
<>Tucker Shedd USA LD (6.00 / 180) Detroit Compuware
<>Owen Baker USA , RW (5.10 /170) Detroit Honeybaked
<>Jonathon Aegerter USA C (5.09 / 160) Oakland Jr. Grizzlies
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<>Chase Pietila USA RD (6.00 / 165) Detroit Honeybaked
<>Lucas Ross – CAN, LW (5.10 / 145) Pittsburg Penguins Elite
<>Dylan Gordon - USA LD (5.08 / 155) Detroit Honeybaked 15U
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DRAFT DAY NOTES:

There are only a few players in my top 15-20 list that I have not seen in a game situation, unfortunately David Goyette is one of them. However, his offensive output playing for “South Kent Select Academy” this season are eye-popping numbers (58GP – 45G – 93A – 138 pts), accompanied by outstanding scouting reports and a consistently high draft ranking amoung several websites.

David Goyette is without question an intriguing prospect, however, the possibility of a NCAA commitment cannot be discounted heading towards Draft Day. As a potential top 4 pick, Goyette is an OHL prospect to monitor closely over the coming weeks.


NCAA commitments (or the indication a player is leaning towards NCAA) can drastically effect where they will be drafted this April. The round they are drafted is not always a true indication of their ranking amoung their age group.

For example, prior to the draft, US born Anthony Agostinelli was believed to be heading to the NCAA. Several OHL draft website had AA pegged for the 3rd round.

Here are a couple of the scouting reports floated around before the 2019 OHL draft.

RECRUITING: Total Pro Evaluation Spring Showcase: Top ‘03 Prospects
North Andover, Mass. — The top 2003-born players in the United States took part in the Total Pro Evaluation Spring Showcase. The following notes and evaluations are broken down by A++, A+, A and B prospects.
‘A+’ Forwards: Anthony Agostinelli: - He had good size and was tough to knock off pucks. He had slick hands for a player of his size and was able to create offense as a set-up guy and as a finisher.


PROSPECTS: Top 12 uncommitted ’03s at USA Hockey’s Select 15 Player Development Camp
AMHERST, N.Y. — With USA Hockey’s Select 15 Player Development Camp underway in Amherst, N.Y., college coaches, junior scouts, and NHLPA agents have converged on the Greater Buffalo area to watch the top 2003-born prospects in the United States.
#6. Anthony Agostinelli: The Rochester, N.Y., native has a fantastic offensive skill set. His speed and hands allow him to control pucks and create chances. His one downside is he sometimes tries to do too much and doesn’t move the puck quick enough.


And of course there was this incredible OT game winner in the finals of the World U-15 Championship - and Double A’s draft interest increased significantly. (1:15 – 1:30).

NOTE: IceDogs D prospect Tyler Procious was a teammate of AA on this team. Outstanding prospect – would be a great addition to the IceDogs next year.

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PART VI
<>Michael Buchinger RD (5'9" / 150) Toronto Jr. Canadiens (GTHL)
<>Aaron Brown LD (6.01 / 168) Quinte Red Devils (HEO)

PART VII (3rd/4th Round Talent)
<>Brice Cooke RW (0.00 / 000) Toronto Jr. Canadians (GTHL)
<>Josh Vogelsberg C (5.11 / 145) Mississauga Reps (GTHL)
<>Beau Jelsma C (5.07/158) Buffalo Jr. Sabres / Brantford 99ers Minor Midget AAA
<>Owen Melenbacher F (6.02 / 175) Buffalo Jr. Sabres
<>Aaron Andrade RW (5.11 / 190) Toronto Titans (GTHL)
<>Noah Collins D (0.00 / 000) Whitby Wildcats (ETA)
<>Matthew Mayich LD (6.00 / 160) Hamilton Huskies
<>Nathan Poole C (0.00 / 000) Oshawa Jr. Generals
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DRAFT DAY NOTES: Fantilli Bros

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@overtheboards D Luca Fantilli ( @KUAWildcats ) commits to Michigan (2021-2022). Late ‘02 is a nice get, strong skating puck-mover with (38 pts – 13 goals in 30 games) for one of the top prep teams.
Luca’s brother Adam (late ‘04) is the top uncommitted prospect in the country, an elite talent at forward out of Ontario who won’t be eligible to commit until August. Potential first overall pick in this spring’s OHL draft.



Depending on what he decides, Fantilli is undoubtedly the best prospect in Ontario and is already being talked about as a top pick in the 2023 NHL draft. Fantilli is one of those difference-making players who doesn’t seem to have any flaws. He’s already 6-foot-2 and 182 pounds, has extraordinary offensive skills, shoots the puck a ton and plays an impressive physical game. But he’s also a 15 year-old kid who misses his big brother and that’s why he went to play for a team that’s an eight-hour drive from his Toronto home. The father said it became evident how close the two brothers are. “I think we underestimated the impact his brother leaving would have on Adam.”



@TPEHockey Feb 20 Adam Fantilli has dominated Prep School hockey with Kimball Union. At 15 y/o he’s put up: 25GP 18G 18A 36PTS for 1.45 PPG. Last year, Kimball Union had Tomas Mazura who was drafted in the 6th RD by the #Oilers after scoring 1.46 PPG at 18 y/o. Ya he’s good. Top 3 for the #2023NHLDraft

@TPEHockey Feb 20 Before you ask where he’s playing next year, IDK. He moved to Kimball Union to play with his brother who is a U Michigan commit. He has said his dream is to play in the NCAA. BUT he’s uncommitted…

@TPEHockey Feb 20 I’m not saying that him going to the USHL would be a bad idea. Just that he’d be too good for that league come his 17 y/o season. I’d love to see him play at UMich in his DY

@TPEHockey Feb 20 Shane Wright is better than Fantilli, but not by a lot.

@TPEHockey Feb 20 Look at what Shane Wright is doing to the OHL in his 15 year old year. By the time he’s in his draft year he’ll be far too good for that league. Fantilli isn’t Shane Wright, but there isn’t a massive difference.

Replying to @TPEHockey Feb 20 His brother, Luca, is currently a prospect of the (Chicago) Steel, and we know how strong the relationship between the two is. Not saying it would happen, but since the USHL allows for a smoother transition to the NCAA. I was wondering if Adam might go down the USHL route?


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DRAFT DAY NOTES III

Joey Burke was on the pre-game show yesterday. He and Elliot Price spoke about the team’s preparation for the upcoming draft. Not sure if there is an audio link available (?), however, here is a paraphrasing of JB’s responses, as best as I can recount the conversation.


We have never been in this situation where we have multiple high round picks in consecutive years. We are set up for success in this draft and future drafts with all the picks we have accumulated.

We can now use the draft to add high round talent (2nd and 3rds) that our teams have been lacking – and also through trades, without having to trade young core players to do so.

In this year’s draft, we have a 1st, two 2nds and high 3rd. We have a really good idea of who we want and a good idea of who will be available to us with those picks. We have scouted the players we are interested in at least a dozen times – and we will be adding 4 high quality players and another one in the Import draft.

All the pre-draft interviews we have conducted have been positive. None of the players/agents have told us no they would not report to Niagara. The recruitment of players is helped by our location, facility, the program we have put in place and fan base. Our fans are a huge part of recruitment pitch. We definitely sell the fact that Niagara has one of the most loyal and knowledgeable fan bases in the OHL. Our fans are a huge boost to our recruitment process. We are fortunate to have that to sell to prospective players.



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PART VII UPDATE

ROUNDS 3-5
Justin Varner USA RW / C (6.00 / 174) Detroit HoneyBaked 15U
Noah Van Vliet RD (6.01 / 202) Toronto Red Wings (GTHL)
Liam Eveleigh LD (5.10 / 192) Waterloo Wolves (Alliance)
Trent Swick LW (6.04 / 000) Southern Tier Admirals (SCTA)
Aiden Puley RW (6.01 / 150) Toronto Jr. Canadiens (GTHL)
Owen Beck C (5.11 / 180) Quinte Red Devils (ETA)
Hayden Simpson C (5.08 / 155) Toronto Titans (GTHL)
Zion Green F USA (5.10 / 172) Oakland Jr. Grizzlies / Detroit Compuware
Rodion Tatarenko C / LW (6.00 / 168) Toronto Red Wings
Sett Ursomarzo C Toronto Nationals
Patrick Thomas (5.10 / 150) Hamilton Huskies
Julian Fantino RW (TBA) Richmond Hill Coyotes
Ty Petrou C (TBA ) Ajax-Pickering Raiders
Connor Koropatnicki F (6.01 / 178) Hamilton Huskies

ROUNDS 4-5
Evan Klein LW (6.02 / 195) Waterloo Wolves (Alliance)


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DRAFT DAY NOTES: Fantilli Bros

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@overtheboards D Luca Fantilli ( @KUAWildcats ) commits to Michigan (2021-2022). Late ‘02 is a nice get, strong skating puck-mover with (38 pts – 13 goals in 30 games) for one of the top prep teams.
Luca’s brother Adam (late ‘04) is the top uncommitted prospect in the country, an elite talent at forward out of Ontario who won’t be eligible to commit until August. Potential first overall pick in this spring’s OHL draft.



Depending on what he decides, Fantilli is undoubtedly the best prospect in Ontario and is already being talked about as a top pick in the 2023 NHL draft. Fantilli is one of those difference-making players who doesn’t seem to have any flaws. He’s already 6-foot-2 and 182 pounds, has extraordinary offensive skills, shoots the puck a ton and plays an impressive physical game. But he’s also a 15 year-old kid who misses his big brother and that’s why he went to play for a team that’s an eight-hour drive from his Toronto home. The father said it became evident how close the two brothers are. “I think we underestimated the impact his brother leaving would have on Adam.”



@TPEHockey Feb 20 Adam Fantilli has dominated Prep School hockey with Kimball Union. At 15 y/o he’s put up: 25GP 18G 18A 36PTS for 1.45 PPG. Last year, Kimball Union had Tomas Mazura who was drafted in the 6th RD by the #Oilers after scoring 1.46 PPG at 18 y/o. Ya he’s good. Top 3 for the #2023NHLDraft

@TPEHockey Feb 20 Before you ask where he’s playing next year, IDK. He moved to Kimball Union to play with his brother who is a U Michigan commit. He has said his dream is to play in the NCAA. BUT he’s uncommitted…

@TPEHockey Feb 20 I’m not saying that him going to the USHL would be a bad idea. Just that he’d be too good for that league come his 17 y/o season. I’d love to see him play at UMich in his DY

@TPEHockey Feb 20 Shane Wright is better than Fantilli, but not by a lot.

@TPEHockey Feb 20 Look at what Shane Wright is doing to the OHL in his 15 year old year. By the time he’s in his draft year he’ll be far too good for that league. Fantilli isn’t Shane Wright, but there isn’t a massive difference.

Replying to @TPEHockey Feb 20 His brother, Luca, is currently a prospect of the (Chicago) Steel, and we know how strong the relationship between the two is. Not saying it would happen, but since the USHL allows for a smoother transition to the NCAA. I was wondering if Adam might go down the USHL route?


IceDog fans find out on April 11th.
Do the "Powers" ( BB, JB, Pappa & Mamma ) know enough to sacrifice the playoffs this year & accept a "deferred reward" to get to Adam Fantilli in this draft? I seems they are not focussed enough on the "prize" as a longish term goal. When all is said & done we "crazy people" seem to think we know what is needed even without all the knowledge available to the "brain trust".

What are we missing or what are "they" missing? Seems a no brainer to go for the top prospect, no?

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Do the "Powers" ( Bb, JB, Pappa & Mamma ) know enough to sacrifice the playoffs this year & accept a "deferred reward" to get to Adam Fantilli in this draft? I seems they are not focussed enough on the "prize" as a longish term goal. When all is said & done we "crazy people" seem to think we know what is needed even without all the knowledge available to the "brain trust".

What are we missing or what are "they" missing? Seems a no brainer to go for the top prospect, no?
I would think that “if” the prize is Adam Fantilli then the IceDogs don’t really need the 2nd overall pick to land him a 5th would get it done.

Adam and Luca's hockey paths have been linked together. Since, Luca already has an NCAA commitment, drafting Adam is an extremely risky move any other team. Since, his brother is not on that team, Adam can easily leave the OHL and go the NCAA route with Luca.

This whole Adam and Luca Fantilli scenerio, obviously heavily favours the IceDogs. This could turn out to be a case of an agent controlling the draft with an NCAA threat that is very real.

My concern would be if Adam and Luca decide NCAA over OHL - that is why I’m all for missing the playoffs and being in a position to draft the next best player after Adam Fantilli.

...perhaps the IceDogs know something we don’t know? Hmmmm. Man, I hope so!!!
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I would think that “if” the prize is Adam Fantilli then the IceDogs don’t really need the 2nd overall pick to land him a 5th would get it done.

Adam and Luca's hockey paths have been linked together. Since, Luca already has an NCAA commitment, drafting Adam is an extremely risky move any other team. Since, his brother is not on that team, Adam can easily leave the OHL and go the NCAA route with Luca.

This whole Adam and Luca Fantilli scenerio, obviously heavily favours the IceDogs. This could turn out to be a case of an agent controlling the draft with an NCAA threat that is very real.

My concern would be if Adam and Luca decide NCAA over OHL - that is why I’m all for missing the playoffs and being in a position to draft the next best player after Adam Fantilli.

...perhaps the IceDogs know something we don’t know? Hmmmm. Man, I hope so!!!
I think if you asked billy and Joey they’d be all for missing the playoffs as well however I don’t think they would/should tell the team to lose on purpose cause that might cause problems in the coming years which means you have to hope the other team shows up every game which Barrie didn’t on Thursday until the third and that was only for a few minutes. I know Adam really only wants to play with his brother but I wonder if he’d change his mind if he could play with wright in Kingston

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Do the "Powers" ( Bb, JB, Pappa & Mamma ) know enough to sacrifice the playoffs this year & accept a "deferred reward" to get to Adam Fantilli in this draft? I seems they are not focussed enough on the "prize" as a longish term goal. When all is said & done we "crazy people" seem to think we know what is needed even without all the knowledge available to the "brain trust".



What are we missing or what are "they" missing? Seems a no brainer to go for the top prospect, no?


No they don?t know that... they are clueless to it IMO

I?m sure they see dollar bills even if it?s only two playoff games




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