REBUILDING THE ICE DOGS (2017)

[retired/sectionJ]

And hopefully now, we can put this subject to bed and move on to our very young and exciting team.

[5 for fighting]

Originally Posted by NiceDawg

When the kids were in charge of the hockey team and a coach had to defer, something was very wrong. That isn't the case this year, these boys play for their coach and he is very much in charge.

And that's where we disagree. The kids were never in charge and the coach never deferred in my opinion. It's all just rumours.

[NiceDawg]

Originally Posted by 5 for fighting

And that's where we disagree. The kids were never in charge and the coach never deferred in my opinion. It's all just rumours.

So Marty told them to go out and lose half the game's they played and then suddenly instructed them to win?

[pup96]

Originally Posted by 5 for fighting

Dhillon is a great goalie, and most OHL teams also have great goalies. Dhillon is rated 19th in this coming NHL draft - that's 19. That's pretty far down especially when you consider all the NHL drafted goalies in the OHL as well.

Don't get me wrong, I think Dhillon is great. But my point is the most teams have great goalies and if you don't, you need to acquire one or you're not winning many games.

The OHL/NHL grades goalies by goals against average which is fine if your on a winning team but on a losing team I would expect save percentage is a better indicator. At 0.917 he is the fourth best in the league. He has faced more shots than any other goalie and made more saves than anyone else also. Stevie will get a wink in this years draft there is more to his story than goals against average.

[pup96]

Originally Posted by 5 for fighting

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The team struggled during the regular season because the players were not strong mentally. Finally during the playoffs the players started to prepare better mentally for games. I don't think it had anything to do with the coach.

Sorry Mrs. Williamson but most of the fans and Mr. and Mrs. Burke disagree.

[5 for fighting]

Originally Posted by pup96

Sorry Mrs. Williamson but most of the fans and Mr. and Mrs. Burke disagree.

When Williamson was let go, most of the fans I spoke to did not think it was the right move. Out of the 6 people I spoke to, only one thought firing Williamson was the right move. As well, there was a letter in the newspaper against the firing and as a person who listens to CKTB, I can tell you a few fans called the radio station to voice their displeasure. While I know some fans thought it was the right move, many did not.

[5 for fighting]

Originally Posted by pup96

The OHL/NHL grades goalies by goals against average which is fine if your on a winning team but on a losing team I would expect save percentage is a better indicator. At 0.917 he is the fourth best in the league. He has faced more shots than any other goalie and made more saves than anyone else also. Stevie will get a wink in this years draft there is more to his story than goals against average.

The draft rankings are based on what the scouts see, not based upon GAA. Where do you get your info from? According to Bell, Dhillon is 19th because he isn't flashy like many other goalies above him and the scouts like flashy goalies.

[5 for fighting]

Originally Posted by NiceDawg

So Marty told them to go out and lose half the game's they played and then suddenly instructed them to win?

I'm not sure what you're saying. So because the team lost half the games they played, that proves the coach lost control. If that is the case, I guess half of the coaches in the OHL have lost control of their team.

[Dawger]

OK...this is Mrs Williamson signing in!...I will always be a big Marty fan...as an ice dogs nut I love we have been to the playoffs every year and twice Eastern champs...that being said, I think it was time to turn the coaching over to Dave and concentrate on the GM duties for Marty...I am all in with the direction the team is taking and I am fine for all the accolades Joey is getting for the deals he made picking up the truckload of picks, but I am a greedy, me-first guy and I want it all now! I would have kept the Davis kids (and hope they progressed!) and Paquette and supplemented them with a first rounder, traded Mantha and Haydon for whatever mediocre return I could get, and been going for it next year (not the year after!)...as I said...I am all in with the dogs (we probably would have fallen short next year with my plan (which would probably have been Marty's strategy) and hopefully their plan pans out and we win it all the following year)

[dogs777]

Originally Posted by Dawger

OK...this is Mrs Williamson signing in!...I will always be a big Marty fan...as an ice dogs nut I love we have been to the playoffs every year and twice Eastern champs...that being said, I think it was time to turn the coaching over to Dave and concentrate on the GM duties for Marty...I am all in with the direction the team is taking and I am fine for all the accolades Joey is getting for the deals he made picking up the truckload of picks, but I am a greedy, me-first guy and I want it all now! I would have kept the Davis kids (and hope they progressed!) and Paquette and supplemented them with a first rounder, traded Mantha and Haydon for whatever mediocre return I could get, and been going for it next year (not the year after!)...as I said...I am all in with the dogs (we probably would have fallen short next year with my plan (which would probably have been Marty's strategy) and hopefully their plan pans out and we win it all the following year)

I agree with majority of this post the only thing I wouldn't do is keep the Davis kids other than that I agree with everything else you said