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Old 01-16-2020, 06:48 PM
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Oh that’s right Oshawa got an Eastern Conference finals participation ribbon for that. Nice!
The Dogs didn’t even get the purple ribbon.

And we’ll see what Oshawa ends up with next year. You know, their “go for it year”. I’ll bet anything you want they get out of the second round.

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The Dogs didnít even get the purple ribbon.

And weíll see what Oshawa ends up with next year. You know, their ďgo for it yearĒ. Iíll bet anything you want they get out of the second round.

You pick the stakes.
Iíve handed out enough of them to know that all participation ribbons are purple.

And i can tell you this, if Tomasino returns to the OHL next year, Iíll be rooting for him to win an OHL championship.

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I was very surprised that there were no conditional picks too.

I would be surprised if he sticks in the NHL next year ....

But if he adds a lot of muscle in the offseason anything could happen

I remember how frustrating It was the year the Blues kept Petro and barely played him that first season and only returned him late to niagara for them to trade him at the O deadline

Would suck for generals if Tomo stays in NHL, plays 8-9 games over a couple months, is returned, then Goes to world juniors .... could have paid a lot of draft pick currency for less than a full season of games played next year .... i guess where it counts is you want him in the lineup come playoff time


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The lack of conditions suggests there were multiple offers for Phil Tomasino and when the bidders got as high as they could with picks the only way to sweeten the deal was to make it unconditional.
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Not to be forgotten is that Lleyton Moore will be 18yrs in 20/21 (Oshawa's go for it year,Memorial cup run) which means he's likely dealt the following year (21/22) to recoup some of the lost draft picks.
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Not to be forgotten is that Lleyton Moore will be 18yrs in 20/21 (Oshawa's go for it year,Memorial cup run) which means he's likely dealt the following year (21/22) to recoup some of the lost draft picks.


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Not to be forgotten is that Lleyton Moore will be 18yrs in 20/21 (Oshawa's go for it year,Memorial cup run) which means he's likely dealt the following year (21/22) to recoup some of the lost draft picks.
I bet Oshawa easily lands 2 or 3 2nds for Lleyton Moore two years from now. About half of the 2nds returned from what they gave up for Tomasino this year.
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I like the optimism but I would think that Moore would be trending the same with as Billy Constantinou, with a return of a third and a few fourths but this draft will probably determine his value to other clubs.
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I bet Oshawa easily lands 2 or 3 2nds for Lleyton Moore two years from now. About half of the 2nds returned from what they gave up for Tomasino this year.
Moore may not be trending in that direction anymore.

This is in no way meant to slag Lleyton Moore. I ALWAYS root for players who have worn an IceDogs jersey, regardless if they are still in the OHL, AHL or NHL, however, Moore is quickly falling off the NHL draft radar. His play since being traded to Oshawa has regressed. He was not invited to participate in the CHL top prospects game Ė and on NHL Central Scouting ranking for NA skaters Jake Uberti has apparently surpassed him. Moore has fallen somewhere below 217 for NA skaters.
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All trades have a natural chain reaction (and long-life span) that is quite interesting to follow when possible.

This thread, identifying all the picks the IceDogs acquired in the 2019-2020 trades, will allow fans to track how each draft pick was utilized:
<> the players selected
<> which picks were used to acquire players
<> and most importantly how these players developed and what impact they had on team success.

This cycle culminates with the “return”, in terms of picks (or players) that those players, who are currently only picks in the draft cupboard (or player), are than traded themselves.
e.g., If Cameron Butler is traded, in a few years, depending on his development, will bring some level of return directly related to the Akil Thomas trade.
Or if a few of these 2nd or 3rd turn out to be impact players that becomes the additional return from the 2020 trades.


With the draft cupboard thread pinned, it can easily be updated so fans can discuss how these trades impacted the future of this franchise. Hopefully, the IceDogs maximizing their tradable assets this year, will allow them to create a successful business model that can sustain itself over a number of years.


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Someone with a lot of time on their hands should do one of these up, Icedogs style ...



Someone on twitter maintains this once a transaction is done .... I nominate Blacksox to come up with an Icedogs version of this lol

Would be neat to see
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