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Old 10-09-2019, 08:47 PM
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I’m hoping we get 4 points this weekend but with our young team who knows
14 players on the roster are 18yrs old or older.... they’re not that “young”.
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The IceDogs could well be one of the most inexperienced/younger OHL teams this year. Niagara has 17 players (Rookies or 2nd year) that fit either one or both of those designations.

The initial core of this rebuild are the 03s and 02s (they have 10 of those):

At the start of season…
R – 03 Swiggy – 0 games
R – 02 Tynan – 0 games
R – 01 Sbaraglia – 4 games

R – 03 Cato – 0 games
R – 03 Enright – 0 games
R – 02 Chanton – 0 games

R – 03 Agostinelli - 0 gms
R – 02 Sims – 4 gms
2nd – 02 Snow – 0 gms
2nd – 02 Uberti – 59 gms
2nd – 02 DeSimone – 47 gms

These players are a little older, but have limited OHL experience – and don’t figure into the long range plans of this rebuild.
R – 01 Campbell – 0 gms
R – 00 Theriault – 0 gms
R – 01 Betts – 0 gms
R – 01 Cook – 3 gms
2nd – 00 Sopa - 55 gms
2nd – 01 Howard – 52 gms
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The IceDogs could well be one of the most inexperienced/younger OHL teams this year. Niagara has 17 players (Rookies or 2nd year) that fit either one or both of those designations.

The initial core of this rebuild are the 03s and 02s (they have 10 of those):

At the start of season…
R – 03 Swiggy – 0 games
R – 02 Tynan – 0 games
R – 01 Sbaraglia – 4 games

R – 03 Cato – 0 games
R – 03 Enright – 0 games
R – 02 Chanton – 0 games

R – 03 Agostinelli - 0 gms
R – 02 Sims – 4 gms
2nd – 02 Snow – 0 gms
2nd – 02 Uberti – 59 gms
2nd – 02 DeSimone – 47 gms

These players are a little older, but have limited OHL experience – and don’t figure into the long range plans of this rebuild.
R – 01 Campbell – 0 gms
R – 00 Theriault – 0 gms
R – 01 Betts – 0 gms
R – 01 Cook – 3 gms
2nd – 00 Sopa - 55 gms
2nd – 01 Howard – 52 gms
Inexperienced is one thing. “Young” is another.
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Old 10-09-2019, 11:23 PM
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Inexperienced is one thing. “Young” is another.
The IceDogs are a combination of both. They have 10 promising young players (03s and 02s) - that will all be a huge part of the completion of this rebuild in a few years.
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This is what drove me nuts about coaches like Marty Williamson and others who, when given opportunities to play young players, very often chose not to. It’s all well and good to say you’re a coach who ‘likes his older players’ or ‘favours experience’, but where that screws you is when those players either graduate or are traded. Because then you, as the coach, are eventually forced to play young players. And when you do, your young players will have no situational experience.
Contrast that with a team like the London Knights for example. London typically would pair two experienced players, be they stars or not, with a rookie. So that you did not have a ‘top-heavy’ line, nor was it a line of rookies who would be put at a disadvantage against more experienced lines. And then eventually that rookie becomes the veteran on the line. And on it goes. From Tavares(although he was acquired in trade)to Kane to Marner to Domi and on and on.Thats what I want to see happen here.
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This is what drove me nuts about coaches like Marty Williamson and others who, when given opportunities to play young players, very often chose not to.
Burke has kept the fourth line in the game, I wouldn't say they play 15 minutes but it is more than 8. I think he is attempting to bank as many wins before the deadline and that afterwards those young players will see even more minutes. We saw this happen the year Thomas/Castleman joined the team, they got plenty of minutes after the deadline and became better players as a result. Giving people too much ice time before they can handle it can foster frustration and injuries for the newer player as well. I haven't seen anything objectionable in the way the newer players have been handled so far this year.
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Nothing on the OHL site in regards to any suspension for Doughty after the 5 minute major for contact to the head.
It was an overreaction, I damn near spilled my beer when they sent him to the showers for that one. Penalty? Yes. Game? No. Suspension? Eff no.
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HOCKEY NIGHT IN NIAGARA
The IceDogs will be honouring two championship St. Catharines Black Hawks teams Saturday prior to the start of the game. Two banners will be unveiled to honour the 1970-1971 and 1973-1974 Black Hawks, who were crowned the Ontario Hockey Association (OHA) Major Junior A champions, capturing the J. Ross Robertson Cup.
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HOCKEY NIGHT IN NIAGARA
The IceDogs will be honouring two championship St. Catharines Black Hawks teams Saturday prior to the start of the game. Two banners will be unveiled to honour the 1970-1971 and 1973-1974 Black Hawks, who were crowned the Ontario Hockey Association (OHA) Major Junior A champions, capturing the J. Ross Robertson Cup.
Here's a little more on the night and the teams past from former Blackhawks goaltender George Hulme on the Niagara Sports Report:

https://www.iheartradio.ca/610cktb/a...3?mode=Article
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The IceDogs will be honouring two championship St. Catharines Black Hawks teams Saturday prior to the start of the game. Two banners will be unveiled to honour the 1970-1971 and 1973-1974 Black Hawks, who were crowned the Ontario Hockey Association (OHA) Major Junior A champions, capturing the J. Ross Robertson Cup.
I see the Captain Marcel Dionne in the picture but not on the list as former players attending the ceremony.
Being from this area and so popular, anybody know why he is not going to be there?
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