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Old 12-06-2021, 09:57 AM
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Old 12-06-2021, 10:08 AM
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Tremendous detailed breakdown Blacksox to justify what we were both saying.
Let's see what 5 for fighting responds now?
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:10 AM
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Now is that supposed to be funny?
If that's the case, then why would Blacksox wish for his/her own son Billy Burke to either step down as coach or get fired?
If you read his previous posts for months/years , you would clearly see that.

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Now is that supposed to be funny?
Things can be funny while not being true. I wish I had a dollar for every time someone disgruntled accused me of being family. I have also (in the past) made similar comments thanking Mrs. Williams about a detailed post concerning Marty

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Old 12-06-2021, 05:46 PM
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I think JB should learn to not talk with so much bravado before the season starts. Because he was not talking in the press that this would be a .300 win percentage team.


So if he has done such a good job, why are they a .300 (or whatever they are right now - too lazy to look) win percentage team?

Someone please explain . . .

For the 2019 run he spent draft picks like a drunken sailor on shore leave and I hope he has learned from that for the next run.


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Old 12-06-2021, 06:02 PM
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I think JB should learn to not talk with so much bravado before the season starts. Because he was not talking in the press that this would be a .300 win percentage team.


So if he has done such a good job, why are they a .300 (or whatever they are right now - too lazy to look) win percentage team?

Someone please explain . . .

For the 2019 run he spent draft picks like a drunken sailor on shore leave and I hope he has learned from that for the next run.


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I don’t think he needs to stop talking like that he’s showing confidence in his team as any GM should IMO

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Old 12-06-2021, 06:35 PM
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I don?t think he needs to stop talking like that he?s showing confidence in his team as any GM should IMO

Hes showing that he has totally misjudged the abilities of the team he put together

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Old 12-06-2021, 06:40 PM
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Would you rather he come out and say hey we’re gonna suck again? Sure people on here might like the honesty but it probably wouldn’t be good for ticket sales which is partly why he says stuff like that
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The team’s poor record is not all the fault of Billy. Joey has also played a part in this.
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You forget to mention that in 2016 Marty left the draft cupboard completely stripped for the next 5 draft years. JB used what little was left to assemble a star-studded team in 2018-2019. Then fully stocked the cupboard again post 2019.
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I think it's obvious you are leading people to believe that Marty is partly to blame for the team's poor performance. But as I pointed out, Marty didn't trade any of our young high end players, he traded away less picks than Joey and all of the picks were recovered the following season. Joey didn't "use what little was left" to assemble the team as you posted. He had a full assortment of draft picks. And I didn't conveniently lead that part out. There was no reason to mention it.

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Of the 18 draft picks, 4 of them were insignificant picks in the 5th,7th,11th,13th
It's interesting that you think a 5th and 7th pick are insignificant. Struthers was drafted in the 5th round, Rosenzweig in the 6th round and Agostinelli was drafted in the 8th round. Would you say all these players are insignificant?

Joey traded away 18 picks and 2 conditional picks, which I believe may be the most picks ever traded away in IceDogs history. Stop trying to make excuses.

Trading away our young players was another mistake. Constantinou played last season when we were dismal so he could have helped. Or we could have traded him at the deadline for 3 picks like Kingston did. And we could really use Moore now but of course he was traded away too. Or do you have an excuse why Moore wouldn't have helped us?

It's pretty simple. Joey overspent in the 2018-2019 run and we are still paying the price 3 years later. That is not Billy's fault. That is on Joey!
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